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According to the Snom One Mini Datasheet it will support 20 Extentions.

 

If I buy a Snom One Mini today, will it therefore come with the "twenty" license that alone costs 849$ ?

At that price, buying a new Snom One Mini every time a new version comes out seems to be cheaper than upgrading!

 

Your whole pricing/licensing model really is strange and completely unexplained...

How often will there be new major versions that have to be paid for? Every 6 months? Every 12 months? Every 3 years ?

 

And what does "Concurrent Calls" on the Versions Page actually mean?

Outgoing calls? All call? Does this mean that if I'm using the free version with 4 Extensions and 2 people are having a "normal" call, then the remaining 2 people cannot even call each other?

 

I'm really interested in the Snom One Mini because I like its hardware design and the fact that it can be powered by POE. But your licensing information is scary.

Assuming you're relasing a new version every year, that would mean for a small 4-Extension Office costs of $349 every single year just to stay current!

 

Don't you think this is a little bit too much of a rip-off?

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You can see it this way: The snom ONE mini is a piece hardware. You can run snom ONE on a PC, in Windows, in Linux, if you like, on a MAC (e.g. MAC mini), or if you like you can run it on a snom ONE mini. There are other ARM-based platforms available too, check out the GuruPlug platform for example. The special thing is that with the snom ONE mini, you get a preinstalled old version of the snom ONE software.

 

IMHO the snom ONE mini hardware is great for small offices that need low-power and silent hardware. If the pre-installed software is insufficient, you can upgrade to version 5.

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anybody: The snom ONE mini retails for $599, i dont know where you got the $849 from. The second thing is that the snomONE mini comes with v4.5 of the snomONE software which is a full featured PBX with 20 seats, so there's no real reason to upgrade unless you are looking for the newer features like Fax2email, ActiveSync and Microsoft Lync Presence which have been added in v5.x of snomONE. If this is the case, you can still upgrade the snomONE mini to v5.x at a 50% discount.

Concurrent calls means how many simultaneous calls can be made on the system at any given time. The snomONE Free comes with 2 concurrent calls. If 2 extensions on the snomONE are talking to each other, that counts as 1 call. If 2 extensions are talking to 2 external numbers, that counts as 2 calls.

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The snom ONE mini retails for $599, i dont know where you got the $849 from.

 

This is exactly what is so absurd. The entire PBX system including hardware and the 20 user license costs 599$.

JUST the Software alone in the cheaper "Standard" Edition without ANY hardware at all costs 849$ for 20 Users.

 

 

so there's no real reason to upgrade unless you are looking for the newer features like Fax2email, ActiveSync and Microsoft Lync Presence which have been added in v5.x of snomONE. If this is the case, you can still upgrade the snomONE mini to v5.x at a 50% discount.

 

So you really think spending 424,50$ to upgrade a 599$ devices is a good deal if what you is basically fax2email?

Thats like paying 30.000$ for a new Navigation-Street-Map DVD just because your car cost 50.000$.

 

But I guess fax2email ist such an extraordinary special feature that this justifies the price. Oh wait, no this is an absolute standard feature that just about every system has...

 

 

If 2 extensions on the snomONE are talking to each other, that counts as 1 call. If 2 extensions are talking to 2 external numbers, that counts as 2 calls.

 

Thanks for clearing that up. Basically that means the "free" edition is unusable in any Office that has 3 or more people. The system I was looking to buy was for an office with 4 people so the free version would not have been enough.

 

Unfortunately, 599$ + 849$/2 = 1023,50$ is a little bit too steep a price for have a nice asterisk GUI in a 3-4 person office.

 

Sad! Your loss though. Lots of other more affordable systems availabe, I just would have loved the ARM based Snom MINI because it looks like an extraordinarily well engineered piece of hardware.

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The snom ONE mini comes with a older software version. It costs money to upgrade it. That explains why it is so cheap.

 

If you want a very cheap PBX without moving parts and low power consumption, you can as well buy a Rasperri Pi or a BeagleBoard and run the PBX version on it. If you have 3-4 person in your office, you should be able to keep the total damage much lower than the price of a snom ONE mini and you are even running the latest version.

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Unfortunately the Raspberry Pi is the very opposite of a well engineered solution. It does not have POE, its CPU and system architecture are pretty crappy and the network interface which is internally connected via USB is a joke.

 

I'm a little shocked though that selling the Snom One Mini at a price which surely must be at least 3x what it costs to make (the internals are pretty similiar to any phone, and thanks to the likes of iSupply we know what that costs to manufacture phones) is not enough to supply it with the latest software.

 

I guess when I have to embark on a tinkering project anyway I can also go for a Free PBX then... maybe there's even something called FreePBX :)

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Take a look at the BeagleBoard. This one has a better power supply connector, and the price difference is not that much compared to the Pi and it has enough memory to run the PBX. The form factor makes it possible to put it into a good-looking housing. Maybe you have a 3D printer in your basement!

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snomONE mini 4.5                     $499
Upgrade to 5.x.x twenty standard     $424.5 (50%)
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                                     $923,5
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I've bought two minis and I'am very happy with it :) .

Reliable, quiet and economical (power over ethernet).

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Good question. I am not even sure how the /etc/init.d looks like on the BeagleBoard (what distribution it is using). In principle you can use the install scripts for CentOS and Debian as a starting point. As snom announced that they will discontinue the mini (although the product was successful according to my standards), we were thinking about a snom ONE mini II based on the BeagleBoard (anyone voting for it?). Then of course we would take care about a preinstalled startup script.

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Well, I do believe that there is room for a system in that category. I mean, I have been building around atom based systems and they are over dimensioned for a small office and around here people do appreciate the lowering of the investment.

 

It very well be that the BeagleBoard does run Debian out of the box. It is just a matter of trying and it may be worth doing it. If it does not work for our purpose, we may find something else to do with it.

 

Cheers!

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